Soapbox features enable our individual writers to voice their own opinions on hot topics, opinions that may not necessarily be the voice of the site. In this piece, Kate argues that Mario's Doomsday might not be as bad an event as you think...
Let's begin with a tally of everything that's going down after the 31st March, 2021:
- Super Mario 3D All-Stars will no longer be available for sale, digitally or physically
- Super Mario Bros. 35 will no longer be on the Nintendo eShop
- The Super Mario Bros. Game and Watch will no longer be available
- Super Mario Maker's online services will be terminated
- Netflix is taking down the Super Mario Bros. 3 cartoon
It is, in short, not going to be a fantastic day for Mario fans, despite coming at the end of a year's worth of 35th-anniversary celebrations for the moustachioed plumber. But instead of seeing it as an end, I'm choosing to see it as a beginning: a chance for someone else to take the limelight.
Being a Mario fan is pretty easy, especially compared to being, say, a Metroid fan, an F-Zero fan, or a Zelda fan who doesn't like ports. Mario has long been Nintendo's golden child, the one who gets lavish birthday parties, a theme park, and pretty much all the glory, and while that rank is deserved – he is, after all, the oldest, and the official mascot of Nintendo – it can be a little tiring for people who don't love him the best.
And anyone who's read the Biblical story of Cain and Abel, or Joseph and his technicolour dreamcoat (or just watched the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical) knows what happens when one child is given all the attention at the expense of others: he gets murdered and/or sold to strangers.
Now, that's not going to happen to Mario – mostly because that's a bit harsh for a family-friendly company – but, honestly, the March 31st shutdowns might allow other games to get a little bit of the attention, too. I won't argue that it isn't a little anti-consumer to almost literally snatch games out of our hands, but there's a difference between "limited time only!" and "we decided to delete this because screw you, that's why." Nintendo failed in its messaging, more than anything, making "limited time only" seem like it was a forever sort of thing. That's on Nintendo, really – and it's backfired pretty badly, but it can't take it back now.
The main issue with a year-long anniversary is that it's only a year long. It has to have an end, and that end is going to disappoint people. The servers for Super Mario Bros. 35 were presumably set up only for the year – those things are costly and time-consuming to run, after all. But those servers might be freed up for something else as a result – maybe something for Zelda's 35th, which starts in July (but let's not get our hopes up).
People expect a lot from Nintendo, and although I don't feel sorry for the multi-billion-dollar company – it'll be fine, I'm sure – I do feel a pang of sympathy for Nintendo trying to meet expectations, sometimes. It gave people a "free" game (you still need a Nintendo Switch Online account, of course) as a celebration, and people complained that it wasn't free forever. They re-released three classic Mario games for a fraction of the original price of each (a very un-Nintendo thing to do) and people were unhappy that it was only on sale for a year. Super Mario Maker's online services being terminated makes sense for a game that's almost six years old on a console that didn't sell well. The mistake here is making all of these happen on the same day. That's just not a great look.
I know it's silly to have hopes, but I do like to think that Nintendo has a plan. I don't think it is quite as evil as this whole March 31st thing has been made to seem, though I do think it comes across as a little unfriendly. I can imagine that it seemed like a fitting end to a year that was all about Mario, and it got plenty of attention and press for the games, too. But isn't it about time that Mario died gave someone else the microphone, anyway? I hope that Nintendo's "plan" from the 1st of April onwards involves showing at least a fraction of that same love to its neglected games.
It's okay to be disappointed about the 31st of March. It's even okay to be a bit annoyed about it. But everything dies eventually, and when one thing dies, it leaves room for something else to take its place – and doesn't that sound exciting?
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Well, if Nintendo opens the doors for other Mario games like bringing back the first few Paper Marios and Super Mario RPG in a new package, sure, I can agree with some of the reasoning here, Miss Gray.
Sure, I believe there’s still a bright future for Mario (and Link) this year. Odyssey 2 anyone? Only time will tell...
As someone who likes Nintendo for their other IP, i wholeheartedly agree. Give Mario a break. There s been Anniversaries gone uncelebrated while he has had a year of pomp.
I'm assuming the 31st March date is due to the Mayan doomsday prophecy rather than it's the end of Nintendo's financial year which would be a logical place for them to cut off things.
I remain convinced that a mini-Direct, full Direct, or Grand Unified Announcement will be made about all of this; the NES Fire Emblem game, if nothing else, convinces me. New NSO offerings? New purchase options? It may be waiting for the E3 timeframe, but it will come.
People aren't complaining that it isn't free forever. They're already paying for it via the NSO subscription. Nintendo has given countless interviews where they've spoken about adding value to the service; now they're deliberately removing value from the service because of an arbitrary promotional date.
Online servers may be expensive to run, but they're also returning record profits at the moment, so i hardly see that as a valid point for shutting it down.
If you want to talk cost-benefit, then they should gauge that on how many people are still playing, not on a date. There's also the fact they spent time, money and resources developing Super Mario 35, and putting the 3D Collection together, what sense does it make to cut-off further returns on that work.
They can also leave things on sale, and still celebrate other things. shrugs
No sh*t it's not all bad news Kate..... TMNT Shredder's Revenge is coming out soon
I still think shutting down Super Mario Bros 35 is an especially bizarre move. Yes, the servers cost money, but so do the Tetris 99 servers, and both games are pretty big draws for Nintendo Switch Online subscriptions. People complain a lot about NSO not being worth the price, so why is Nintendo removing one of its best features after only six months? And if I were a developer who worked on the game I'd be a bit annoyed that nobody could play it any more.
@Clyde_Radcliffe
So will my sealed copy
The main positive will be no more hyperbolic and whiny Nintendo Life articles and videos about Mario's "doomsday" 👍
I've loved the Year of Mario and had a blast. 😃 Unlocking all the levels in Mario 35, Bowser's Fury and playing the delightful Mario Sunshine again were my highlights. The Mario furniture in Animal Crossing is impressive too.
PS TMNT SR to one side, we had some excellent remakes of Mario games come out recently and we have Mario Golf, Skyward Sword and other titles (I'm sure) to follow. So on that note, no dramas
@KateGray Super Mario 35 is disappointing, but the 3D collection no longer being available would make sense if Nintendo were to put N64 games on NSO? They wouldn't want to have a game available on NSO also for sale? If they did this Sunshine + Galaxy could become available as individual purchases?
The Zelda rumours about a Wind Waker/Twilight Prince double pack would also make sense (why no N64 games like the Mario collection?) if Majoras Mask and Ocarina of Time were also being made available via NSO...
Just a theory!!
This is what I've said all along. April 1st, I expect Nintendo to announce N64 games on NSO, beginning with Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. Essentially a big shift toward 35th Zelda celebration. (And possibly Mario 64 to ease the pain of 3D All Stars going away.)
I think the fact that it's been known for so long that they were gonna be pulled means that those who wanted them should have picked them a long time ago. Like... what were you waiting for? Super Mario 3D All Stars at the very least was never in short supply past the second week on sale. Prices were crazy when preorders went live, I waited till two weeks after launch and could find a physical copy for a reasonable price without too much hassle, and the game's been in stock ever since.
The last minute scramble to get one is silly and if making it a temporary thing dragged some attention away from next-gen systems, which are hard to buy anyway as it is, and got people to look to the Switch a bit more in those harsh competitive times, then Nintendo were right to do it. I'm not happy that the collection won't be available anymore of course, but I think it was a good commercial move and those who didn't get one had plenty of time to do so.
To be fair I'm waiting on Paper Mario all stars, with the original (N64), thousand year door (Gamecube) and Super Paper Mario (Wii)
Now that would be amazing as Thousand Year door is stupidly expensive
Zelda 35th anniversary this year? I hope we get it like Mario
Super Mario Galaxy 2 port news soon after? I feel like it might be the ideal time for them to announce it
I'm so sad for Mario 35. It's unfair and with no sense
On April 1st, watch them surprise drop Mario is Missing.
"Nintendo failed in its messaging, more than anything, making "limited time only" seem like it was a forever sort of thing. That's on Nintendo, really – and it's backfired pretty badly, but it can't take it back now."
I'm sorry, but what does this even mean? "Limited time only" means "limited time only" and Nintendo made clear from the very first announcement that these games were limited edition available until March 2021? I don't see how that's on Nintendo and not you if you weren't paying attention.
Some of the magic of things is their limited time nature.. like a limited edition food stuff, or a limited run in a theatre, or an art exhibition. Sure maybe in a couple of years someone may wish they had got to play Super Mario 35.. but can’t. But there’s a lot of things I’d like that are relics of the past and that is fine. I feel like the Mario 35th anniversary has been more of a complainathon than a celebration and it really does muddy the enjoyment.
I'd argue that severs to keep Mario 35 running does cost Nintendo barely anything.
People keep repeating servers are expensive but 99,9% of all games are P2P and the only server running is for matchmaking. And that costs between 60-1000 bucks a year depending on popularity. For Mario 35 I'm guessing 200 and that's being generous.
Nintendo is just doing the Disney strategy of putting their IP in the vault... then releasing them again in the future to build anticipation. And now we Disney + where you can access it all. I’m thinking the classic mario 3d games are all coming to switch online eventually... they just want to make some quick cash off the physical releases first. Similar to the nes and snes mini... sell the physical consoles, make bank, then bring it to switch online a bit later
I just want to know about Metroid, at least give us a limited-time Metroid Prime Trilogy and maybe something more besides Prime 4's logo.
Some of these I can understand and as for the physical products, they’ll have manufactured a set number and it’s not like any unsold copies will disappear from store shelves. They said they won’t ship any more to stores but if they do have some in warehouses, I doubt they’ll throw them in the shredder.
The only thing that I can’t understand is the removal of 3D All-Stars from the eShop. It makes little sense UNLESS they have a plan to offer them in another way from then on.
I only experienced Mario 35 for the first time like 2 weeks ago and it’s a fun experience but I doubt I’ll be crying when it disappears. Heck I consider the original SMB to be vastly overrated. I prefer the rejigged All Stars version with less floaty gameplay.
No Galaxy 2 port then
I'm just happy that the author managed to add something constructive to this whole story, as opposed to ranting and repeating the same three arguments over and over again.
I'll be hoping for some sort of announcement within the second week of April. Standalone versions of the three games in 3D All-Stars only feels logical, or they could be shifting the focus on to a different series like Zelda. Until we learn what the immediate future holds, there's no need to judge the "terrible" March 31st so negatively, unless it's for the memes of course.
I think it's pretty indefensible. There's no valid reason I've seen anyone come up with for pulling a digital game. They can choose to give other series a marketing push without removing things from sale. It's just to make more money. I bet a lot of people see games come out, think to themselves I'll get them some day, and then never do. By putting an end date on it like this, it makes all those people rush out to buy it.
Great article, it’s nice to read a positive take on it!
I’ve always thought the reason for a hard stop of Mario’s 35th was probably to make way for Zelda’s. Although I would love it if they celebrated the 20th anniversary of Pikmin, Luigi’s Mansion, and Paper Mario. Pikmin 1 and 2 in Pikmin 3’s engine? Yes please.
Seriously? Is there a way to defend this? I’m impressed.
@karatekid1612 So excited for that!!
@MarioBrickLayer They wouldn't want to have a game available on NSO also for sale?
Why not? This happens on Gamepass and PS Now.
Got what I wanted and had some fun. Ready to move on to the LOZ celebration in July and see what’s on offer.
Surely Nintendo won't get their distributors to actually call Mario 3D All-Stars and the Game & Watch that are already out there back in?
I assume they will let whatever is already out there sell out first, so they could be available into April.
I strongly suspect that the proper Zelda 35th anniversary celebration will set in right after Mario's celebration ends at the end of March.
March 31st also marks the end of the first quarter of the year, which from a financial standpoint would make sense for Nintendo to launch a new campaign. While a Zelda or even Matroid 35th Anniversary "celebration" seems like a logical next step (and would thrill fans of both IPs), Nintendo has a lengthy track record of subverting expectations, particularly with the Switch (and that hasn't always been a positive thing).
The one "discontinued" game that MIGHT get a new lease on life is Mario 3D All-Stars; after all, a sudden announcement of a "new edition" that includes Super Mario Galaxy 2 would both assuage the pain of missing out on the original for some and offer the game as DLC for those who supported it. Will it happen? I wouldn't count on it, but it would be a great PR move on Nintendo's part.
It's also worth remembering that the Mario 35th Anniversary campaign and its related games/products didn't materialize until the LATTER HALF of 2020. If a new Switch model is indeed on the way, I suspect that 2021 will be largely backloaded toward the end of the year and into early 2022 with "AAA" first-party games support, in order to promote both system and software sales. If that's the case we may not see any more major announcements until around E3, perhaps even later. Whether or not any of this might end up tied to another anniversary campaign is anyone's guess.
I...never fully understood the complaints. Cedar Point is going to have their 150th year celebration(postponed sure), but will they celebrate it and sell the merch in stores forever? No! Super Mario 35 was done in the same way, just held differently because it's a video game franchise, and not a visit to an amusement park or museum that would make a limited time exhibit for a short amount of time. I understand why they are doing it. It was Mario's 35th! The fact that everyone else is holding pitchforks and complaining when it was ALWAYS described as an anniversary celebration and announced from the start. Yeah, that I don't get at all.
Happy Mario day again
Nintendo made it clear about some of the Mario games being limited time only from the start. Hopefully we’ll get more Zelda news. And perhaps something brand new.
What a load of nonsense, there is nothing positive about delisting games and especially on platforms that are very much alive and those defending it are even more baffling to me
I love: "And anyone who's read the Biblical story of Cain and Abel, or Joseph and his technicolour dreamcoat (or just watched the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical) knows what happens when one child is given all the attention at the expense of others: he gets murdered and/or sold to strangers."
That's the kind of writing I'm here for!
On the "Doomsday" I'm a bit disappointed as it seems so random and a bit lame (I get all games are limited: physical copies all have limited runs and digital shops close eventually; but this is a very short horizon). It's not the end of the world, and I hope this comes true and we see some more "Year of Luigi" type stuff after this!
I think Skyward Sword IS the Zelda anniversary maybe with a more In depth BOTW2 trailer at E3.
The Zelda 30th anniversary was pretty lousy, so I dont expect anything hype for the 35th either.
@pixelpatch you know it So looking forward to the release too!!!
@TheLightSpirit
Apologize for terriermon’s adorableness? Pfft, never! Thank you! Thinking about it now, Terriermon’s catchphrase ‘momentai’ means “take it easy”, which is also something that Mario has said from time to time.
The Year of Luigi? That's a throwback.
Anyone who thinks it's ok for Mario All-Stars to stop being sold because "everyone who wants it has gotten it already" shouldn't mind at all if every Switch game released before Sept 2020 suddenly vanished off of the eShop. After all, video games are supposed to only be sold for an arbitary six-month time frame!
I also fully expect this article to be proven wrong when it turns out Nintendo has no plan to continue with Mario 35 or the All-Stars games or anything of the sort. I'll happily eat my words if they do, but I haven't seen any evidence that they would (especially after they weren't brought up in the recent Direct).
@Crono1973 They haven't done it before, they want to incentivise people to buy the online service. Plus it would significantly devalue the 3D collection if one of the games was available on NSO.
Well, maybe this is happening because Mario asked for a raise.
@samuraicop unfortunately Gaming is a hobby and sometimes you need to make choices. Why not pick up Mario 3D Allstars now and grab Monstee Hunter further down the line as that is always going to be available.
I will be more annoyed if Nintendo do a U-turn and release these games in another form after March 31st. I literally only bought bought 3D Allstars because it was a limited product (and I got dragged I to the hype). I'm not even a fan of the Mario games and had already played and got bored of all 3 games, I would never have picked it up without FOMO.
Sigh. This is getting tiresome. I bought 3D All Stars day one and bloody happy about it. It's an anniversary game. Take it in the spirit it's intended.
Sorry, but no sympathy from me. There have been numerous 'limited time only' events I haven't bought. But sweet Jesus, I don't moan about it.
I will happily pay $20 to keep Super Mario 35, I like it that much. It is too good of a game to be gone forever.
Sorry how has this 'backfired' on Nintendo, I hear sales were good, so I guess you must just be listening to the vocal online people. Well that's just got to be true then....
None of this explains the departure of Fire Emblem, though. Beware the ides of Marth!
I know you are trying to get clicks.
But stop calling it "Doomsday". Doesn't feel right. This is a first world problem, not the actual apocalypse.
There's still time to buy Mario 3D All Stars. You can play Mario Maker 2 online. You can find another way to watch the cartoon.
@ukaskew Nah I saw what was posted - they said it will still be available while stocks last, they're not pulling them off the shelves.
The bright side it listening to people complain about it as if it's something that matters.
@Peach64 this is largely how i feel, ive not seen anyone give a concrete reason why it is required of nintendo to delist the game from the system, nor a benefit for the average consumer. it is nintendos choice in the end and im not gonna demand that they keep it up but i still am not the biggest fan of the idea and hope it doesnt become a reocciring practice.
the most common argument you see is "its an anniversery game" however that in itself doesnt mean that nintendo is required to take it down by law unless there is some kind of legal problem they aren't telling people and they are not allowed to sell the game anymore, which is usually why a game is delisted. it is different for a physical release because that is a finite item which needs to be made.
and as you (the person being replied to) and others mentioned, nintendo can still give other franchises a marketing push without removing a game from sale. people for example wouldnt ignore the eventual botw2 release because games like mario odyssey and mario 3d world are on the system so why would people ignore a newly released zelda collection because there has been a mario one available for over a year.
again im not acting like this is some grand crime against humanity, just that delisting a game for a marketing gimmick isnt really something i would consider a positive move and criticism of it is fair game as long as people arent abusive , harrasing or attacking the character of others (such as calling people shills or whiners)
My opinion on these:
Super Mario 3D All-Stars: I feel that having a $60 game package only be available for a limited time DURING A WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC is in poor taste, but I'm not playing the Switch handheld much right now and if I'm really itching for Super Mario 64 or Super Mario Galaxy I have the former on my Wii U and I can still buy the latter digitally on my Wii U (or play Galaxy 2 which I already have digitally on Wii U to scratch that itch).
That just leaves Sunshine. It's a shame that its first rerelease in almost two decades won't be available after March, but frankly it could use more of a retooling (like the HD Zeldas get) than a more or less straight port of the original. Maybe it'll finally get one the next time we see the game.
Super Mario 35: I'm sad to see it go but it cost nothing but a Switch Online sub. Maybe a more substantial Mario battle royale will eventually take its place? There's certainly room to expand upon the concept.
Game & Watch Mario: Honestly I was expecting a physical only product to be limited time.
Super Mario Maker(1's servers): Frankly I'm surprised they were around as long as they were. At any rate, the writing was on the wall when the Switch released a sequel. It'll be sad to see so many stages lost, but given the costs of running servers for two out-of-print gaming platforms this felt inevitable.
Super Mario 3 cartoon: That is (soon was) on Netflix? Huh. Probably wouldn't be able to stand the old Mario cartoons now but it's pretty neat at least one of 'em is floating around the digital video services.
Bonus Challenger: Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon & the Blade of Light: I know the focus is on Mario stuff being limited time, but this one's going away too. Won't affect me much 'cuz I already bought it a while back, but seeing that the game has a localization now I think odds are good we may eventually see it on Switch Online's NES service. Sans the QOL features, probably, but it's a possibility.
Honestly I am fine with the March 31 thing. There has been enough time to buy 3D all stars by now and there still is time. If you wanted it, you probably already got it or are planning to get it soon. I do not watch the Mario bro’s 3 cartoon so I could care less about that. Most of the games in the original all stars are already normally on switch online. Mario 35 I played for an hour, and then put it down and have not played since. Game and watch is meant to be a collectors item, if you want to play the original Mario, then play it on switch online. Most people play Mario maker 2 and the game is 6 years old, most servers for games shut down before that. The biggest deal is 3D all stars, but most people that complain about it have most likely bought the game already.
@Mr-Fuggles777 I agree. There has been enough time for people to buy the game, and still more time before March 31. If you want the game so much, prioritize it over other games that will be out for much longer.
@MetManMas for sunshine, right now it is cheaper to get it on switch, which you get two other games with. Goes for a lot more if you just buy the GameCube version.
I still see 3D All-Stars as a lazy half-effort.
So you got this new version of Mario 64 that has multiple languages and rumble, but then they don't bother adding widescreen.
Then you have a new version of Mario Sunshine that changes literally nothing, except adding widescreen.
Finally, Mario Galaxy which is the only one I can't complain about, mostly because it's the most vanilla to the original release.
Nintendo can do better, or at least release Sunshine and Galaxy separately, maybe have another go at 64 that finally adds widescreen support.
It is interesting to to see how the most fervent Nintendo enthusiasts defend mother Nintendo at any cost. It is like the abused spouse syndrome. I have a Switch, and this this a crappy move by Nintendo by taking down Super Mario 3D All-Stars on the digital store. People defended Nintendo before saying, don't worry, these will probably be sold separately on the digital store, you'll still be able to get it. Now, the defense is, of course they are going to take it down, they did say it was limited. I don't want to feel rushed to buy a game, I should be able to buy it on the digital front when I am ready to buy. And there is no copyright issues on Mario games, just a bad move by Nintendo to try to rush folks to buy it now for full price and to drive up resell prices on cartridge version, which then make Mario even more desirable for future games.
@GrailUK exactly, it has been about seven months, if people want the game they have had enough time to buy it. You get all three games combined for cheaper than one of them goes for in good condition.
@ianl579 they made it clear at the time of release that it was going to be limited. I would be mad if all the games randomly disappeared because they would not have said anything about it. At least with all stars I knew from the start I had to get it before March 31. I prioritized it over other games that I knew would not go away and just bought those games later.
For me the biggest confusion in all of this, and something I thought the latest Nintendo Direct was going to address, was the lack of Super Mario Galaxy 2. You have literally every other mainstream console Super Mario title on Switch now. Why leave out what many consider to be the stronger Galaxy title?
Don't over think things. The reason was to get as much revenue in as possible before the tax year ended.
I bought Super Mario all Stars and was disappointing with it, for reasons mentioned in many reviews. I think Nintendo realised it was not really a full priced game and so came up with the idea of making it a limited addition, rather than a budget game.
Good marketing, that's all.
I already bought 3D All Stars. I bought it twice actually, a digital version to play and a physical version (cheaper at Wal Mart) to leave sealed. So don't think that I am just jealous that I didn't get a copy.
It's pathetic to see people defend this and that defense will probably lead Nintendo to do this type of thing more often. The excuse that 'you had plenty of time to buy it' misses the point. The point is that this was an anti-consumer thing to do, pandemic or not. FOMO is real and now that it has enriched Nintendo, scalpers are just waiting for April 1st to cash in. Moves like this enable scalpers.
@zool I think Nintendo realised it was not really a full priced game and so came up with the idea of making it a limited addition, rather than a budget game.
Nintendo is selling Skyward Sword for the same price as 3 Mario games (one of which was also on the Wii and more successful than Skyward Sword). I don't think Nintendo ever thought 'this isn't worth $60'.
@DKRap12 Yeah, I know. This is exactly why I'm hoping these games will become available in some other way on Switch after the 35th collection is no longer available, like separate eShop releases of the three.
64 and Galaxy can still be acquired on the Wii U storefront (for now), but I know the only (legit) option for Sunshine besides this compilation is the original GameCube disc. I think the game deserves better than it got on the compilation, but it'd still be nice just to have the game available at all because of how much more difficult it is to get ahold of.
@MetManMas You can get the original Gamecube game for less than 3D All Stars.
So Mario 35 does shut down. That's a loss. But it's not like Nintendo is recalling all copies of the other games and deleted downloaded copies off of our systems. It's annoying but it's not the disaster or outrage people are making it out to be.
I don't understand why Nintendo purposefully holds itself back making more money, but it's themselves they are hindering more than anything.
@Heavyarms55 But it's not like Nintendo is recalling all copies of the other games and deleted downloaded copies off of our systems.
That not even a possibility, that would be theft. If that's the best defense you have for Nintendo, then you have no defense at all.
In all honesty I want to see a new star fox and f zero but neither of them seem like they're going to happen
there is no positive. It is absolutely 100% unacceptable to de-list games from sale on a digital marketplace. Period. Artificial scarcity is anti-consumer and crappy immoral behavior.
Remember the fake direct a couple of years ago Nintendo has everything, well it will be a play on that but everything Mario including Mario is missing all Mario and Luigi and Mario galaxy 2!. No just kidding but Mario galaxy 2 would be nice Mario galaxy 2 for free for everyone who bought the set would be even nicer. But knowing Nintendo they will do Super Mario Galaxy 2 HD and charge 60 bucks for it lol.
@Crono1973 if I and others recognise that three old games that don't control well on the Switch and don't look much different from the originals, is priced to high, then I'm sure Nintendo could think the same.
They went with the full price, limited edition rather than a lower price.
But of course the limited edition was not print run limited, it was time limited, right up until the end of the financial year.
Is it not strange that they have not justified their actions.
There is nothing positive about this.
Super Mario 3D All-Stars getting delisted only makes sense if Mario 64 + Sunshine + Galaxy were then going to be sold as standalone titles on the eShop/NSO.
Super Mario Bros 35th getting delisted makes no sense, period. This game should be following the exact same business model as Tetris 99 (with regular in-game events and a premium "Complete Edition" version).
Game & Watch Super Mario Edition getting delisted is the only thing that is somewhat reasonable given that it was always meant to be a limited-edition product like the NES and SNES Minis.
Not a big deal. They're just games.
Mario Kart 8 is still selling well despite technically being a 7-year-old game. Makes no sense to limit a game's release
@Crono1973 Sure, if you buy used. But used discs are almost always a gamble.
I buy what I want day one anyway, so the whole 31st March thing means almost nothing to me. Super Mario Bros. 35 going away is kind of a bummer, but I'm not like super broken up over it. Had my fun with it. I'm personally impacted very little, therefore I don't really care 🤷♂️
i know something is good about it. i then will not have to see 6 articles and 10 videos every time i look at youtube and nintendo life. that will be truly great
@NotoriousWhiz that will work well with it being April Fools...
@ianl579
well these are 10 year old games at the newest we are talking about. something like age of calamity is new. 64 came in 96, sunshine in 02 (i think maybe it was 04) and galaxy in 07. these are not new games
Okay what the actual heck is this?! This not only is the most ridiculous article I've ever seen, but also talks about a religious story to the readers. Christianity isn't the only religion and there are people who also aren't religious so this article is very questionable. To top it off religious discussion is barred in your own ToS so can someone please explain why the editor got a free pass for a ToS violation? 🤔
@MetManMas Sure, if you buy used. But used discs are almost always a gamble.
No they aren't.
You must be new to buying used video games.
This is what I'm actually going to do on March 31, 2021 anyways, my money is on Godzilla.
@RA1NMAKER Don't buy from sellers that don't allow refunds.
Super Mario Bros. 35 will no longer be on the Nintendo eShop (ok, limited time fun)
The Super Mario Bros. Game and Watch will no longer be available (no problem)
Super Mario Maker's online services will be terminated (2 is around)
Netflix is taking down the Super Mario Bros. 3 cartoon (it was never available worldwide anyway)
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Super Mario 3D All-Stars will no longer be available for sale, digitally or physically MAKES ABSOLUTE NO SENSE. it's pure anti-consumer to boost full-price sales. a very disrespectful thing to do. in the Iwata years Nintendo was different, even when it was struggling with the Wii U, it never pulled such tactics (I mean nobody forced you to buy amiibo festival)
@Crono1973 I assure you I am not. I'm fine with buying from a used games store where I can see the product before I buy it, but having to mail something back if it doesn't work right and hoping the seller will offer a refund is something I'd rather not have to deal with.
I'm just glad I got my doomsday copy before doomsday. Surely doomsday will not affect this doomsday prepper.
@sketchturner @sketchturner Wait a second. The next day after Mario’s Doom Day is April 1st? Are you sure Nintendo is not trolling us? Watch Nintendo of America pull an April Fool’s joke. “No more Mario 35, here is Mario 99.”
@MetManMas You do know that ebay listings have pictures, right? I have never had a problem getting a refund on ebay. ebay is pro-buyer.
If Bowser says it's Game Over for Mario on Mar31, who are we to argue?
@Peach64 Well Nintendo are a business, their sole objective is to keep shareholders happy and make profit, anyone who believes otherwise is mistaken. It makes good sense from that perspective, a rush of sales in the one year of availability, then possible re-releases as individual digital titles.
@RA1NMAKER That’s not possible, you can just initiate a return based on a defective or misrepresented item. The process is automatic, even the postage to return is free, a label is generated then tracked through eBay. Refunds are given automatically if the seller refuses to do so.
But isn't it about time that Mario died
Dude, wouldn't it be cool if Mario got its moody dark game, like that Logan movie.
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